“Albert Edwards: Why The Next Recession ‚Might Only Be Six Months Away‘”
Albert Erwards ist ein guter Bekannter bei bto. Parma-Bär und Erfinder der Eiszeit-These:
→ Albert Edwards: Das war erst der Vorgeschmack
→ Albert Edwards mahnt (erneut)
Es dürfte wieder zu den bekannten Kommentaren führen: „Seit Jahren liegt er falsch …, so wie Sie Herr Stelter.“ ist dann noch einer der netteren. Er hat darauf mal so geantwortet:
Hier nun seine aktuellen Gedanken via Zero Hedge:
- “SocGen’s Albert Edwards is out with a new note today – one which he says he wasn’t going to write – but felt compelled to do so anyway due to the ongoing rout in the US bond market, which has prompted the following question that Edwards tries to answer: Is the Ice Age over? (…) of as he elaborates: ‚As the bond rout continues, the biggest call investors have to make is whether the break of the multi-decade downtrend marks the end of the secular bull market. This is the big one. Get on the wrong side of a new multi-year bear market in government bonds and all investment portfolios will be shredded to ribbons, as bonds are the cornerstone of most equity valuation models.‘” – bto: in der Tat eine der wohl entscheidendsten Fragen heutzutage.
- “To Edwards this is a familiar question because as he explains, it is ‚exactly the same bold heading box I wrote in my Global Strategy Weekly of 13 June 2007.‘ As he recalls, ‚the rout in the bond market back then was even more savage than it has been in recent weeks, with the 10y yield rising from 4¾ % in mid-May 2007 to the 5¼ % peak on 12 June, just one day before I wrote the words above, pondering the possible end of the secular bull market for Government bonds.‘” – bto: Und wir alle wissen, was danach passiert ist!
- “Furthermore, just like now, yields were also set to break out above the secular downtrend and respected bond investors such as Bill Gross were, just like now, calling for the end of the secular bull market. Referring to a chart from SocGen’s head of technical analysis, Edwards points out that the break in the 10y above 2.8 % was not the key level that could mark the end of the secular bull market, but rather it was the 3.05 % zone as shown in the chart below. Indicatively, earlier today the 10Y hit 3.09 % after reaching as high as 3.11 % yesterday.” – bto: Nun mag man davon halten, was man will. Solange aber viele Leute auf diese Kurven schauen, sind sie relevant.
Quelle: Zero Hedge
- “But while technicals may justify a major move higher in yields, the fundamentals paint a mixed picture at best. On one hand, Edwards reminds readers that the Citi Economic Surprise Index for the US had slumped back towards zero, a convergence which he notes ‚normally means yields should have continued to paddle sideways around 2.8% – and yet we have seen this dramatic rise.‘ Another observation suggesting the breakout may be false is the massive extreme spec short positioning in Treasuries: ‚in that context this sudden sharp sell-off is most surprising‘ Edwards writes.” – bto: Und alle Spekulanten liegen richtig? Das wäre wohl das erste Mal.
- “So if it is not the US economy, and it is not positioning, what may explain the move higher? To Edwards, two reasons may be the most likely catalysts: First, the SocGen strategists writes that while he has always warned of the risk that US wage inflation would blast upwards, ‚despite the robust August wage data and a stronger oil price pushing up headline inflation, in an eerie echo of June 2007, it is real yields, rather than inflation jitters that have propelled the US nominal bond yield higher.‘” – bto: Höhere Inflationsraten können natürlich die Zinsen treiben. Die wären aber nur vorübergehend, ist doch der deflationäre Druck noch da.
- “A second catalyst may be the Fed itself, and specifically a recent speech by former Fed dove Lael Brainard, which was surprisingly hawkish: ‚In the latest FOMC SEP median path, by the end of next year, the federal funds rate is projected to rise to a level that exceeds the longer-run federal funds rate during a time when real GDP growth is projected to exceed its longer-run pace and unemployment continues to fall. The shift from headwinds to tailwinds may be expected to push the shorter-run neutral rate above its longer-run trend in the next year or two, just as it fell below the longer-run equilibrium rate following the financial crisis. Notably, the sizable fiscal stimulus in the pipeline is likely to continue to bolster the short-run neutral rate over the next two years. The relatively rich level of current asset valuations relative to historical levels is another factor that could push the short-run neutral rate above its longer-run value.‘” – bto: also doch eine temporäre Verknappung des Geldes.
- “To Edwards, this suggests that the market has been too sanguine about the Powell Feds preparedness to hike rates to arrest the financial market bubbles created by his predecessors. So going back to the last time Edwards saw just this kind of move in yields, he notes that when reviewing his thoughts back in June 2007, ‚what is most interesting is that the sell-off then was driven by exactly the same thing that it is now – namely sharply rising real yields on the back of stronger economic data while inflation expectations were remarkably unmoved. Then, like now, enthusiasm on US growth was reaching its heady climax.‘” – bto: was nur sagt, dass wir uns an der Spitze der Bewegung befinden könnten.
- “Why is Edwards so fixated on June 2007? Because then, too, the technical break of the 20-year downtrend as bond yields rose to 5¼ % did not ultimately mark the end of the bull market. It was, however, the harbinger of the coming recession: In fact, as Q3 progressed yields slumped towards 4 % as the market began to sniff the recessionary vapors in the air. Equities ignored the signs of course, and made new highs in October ’07 a few weeks after the Fed’s first rate cut. But by December, less than 6 months after the June peak in yields, the US economy had entered the very worst of recessions. Might history repeat itself?” – bto: Nein, ich denke, es wäre dann noch schlimmer als damals, weil die Welt um ein Vielfaches höher geleveraged ist.
- “One doesn’t have to go all the way back to 2007 to see a similar episode: in early February, similarly strong wage data spiked bond yields higher causing a temporary slump in equities, and resulting in the unprecedented VIXplosion.” – bto: bisher nicht der Fall.
Quelle: Zero Hedge
- “And with yields on the verge of another break out, and stocks oblivious just like in February, and then again the summer of 2007, Edwards concludes the note (which he meant not to write), with another rhetorical question: So while we ponder whether the bond bull market is really over (which I doubt… at least yet), the more immediate concern should be what level of bond yields will trigger an equity market slump and whether against all expectations a recession might only be six months away just as it was in June 2007.” – bto: Das wäre dann aber keine Korrektur, wenn 2007 als Vorbild dient.
→ zerohedge.com: “Albert Edwards: Why The Next Recession ‚Might Only Be Six Months Away‘”, 20. September 2018
Irgendwie erinnern mich die Schilder mit der Aufschrift “das Ende ist nahe” bezüglich der Börse an die Situation der Shortseller in Bezug auf Tesla, jeder weiß es stinkt zum Himmel, die richtigen Argumente für den Exitus sind Legion aber der Markt ist mal wieder länger absurd als man selber liquide.
Eine konservative Prognose wäre in den nächsten 2 Jahren wird es knallen, aus welchchem Grund auch immer und es wird Trump vor seiner Wiederwahl erwischen, sollte er denn dann noch im Amt sein (bekanntlich sind viele Hunde des Hasen Tod) .
@Kevin: Sie wissen, dass Herr Dr. Stelter „perma“ gemeint hat.Humor auf Kosten anderer finde ich ehrlich gesagt etwas unhöflich. Ich jedenfalls bin froh, dass meine vielen Tippfehler hier noch keiner verlacht hat.
Zeile 1: “Parma”-Bär!
Der ist gut, der Witz! Wenn ich mal dort bin, besuche ich ihn.